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color:#1F497D'>I totally agree with&nbsp; all who have posted and want to
emphasize having the extra aquarium nets as suggested by Carissa , sometimes I
have even used strainers with handles- so more kids can participate in
looking.&nbsp; It really depends on what your goal is. If critter monitoring
have to follow the same protocol each time..<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If looking for variety of critters, it is great to look in
different parts of stream or pond and look at adaptations. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Take care-all Theresa<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
paee-bounces@actionpa.org [mailto:paee-bounces@actionpa.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carissa
Longo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> jjose@ptd.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> paee@actionpa.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PAEE] D-nets vs. kick nets for 6th &amp; 7th graders<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>John,<br>
<br>
I agree kick nets are the best fun.&nbsp; There's nothing like kids doing a jig
in the stream.&nbsp; Do you have enough kick nets.&nbsp; They can run a $125 a
piece.<br>
I bought a good one, and made 6 more.&nbsp; Buy 2 broom poles/handles and fine
wire or plastic screen from a hardware store.&nbsp; I also had someone donate
heavy duty fabric.&nbsp; In the beginning, I used a heavy duty stapler to
staple the nets to the poles.&nbsp; Make sure to fold the water end of the mesh
to make it finer.&nbsp; Staple the double folded fabric.&nbsp; Like magic, a
new kit net for about $5!&nbsp; After use, we refined.&nbsp; I had a volunteer
who worked at a sewing fabric w/ heavy duty machines.&nbsp; She sewed 2 long
fabric loops on the mesh (just like the &quot;real&quot; kick nets you can
buy). <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I've had them for 7 years, &amp; they're
still going!&nbsp; I use the kit nets a little different than Ruth.&nbsp; Find
a good riffle, then 2 students (one to hold each pole) &amp; then 2 in front of
the net (make sure to anchor the bottom of the net down in the stream w/ rocks)
dancing around.<br>
<br>
It is always good to have at least one good D-net on hand for the shy kid who
wants to work by themselves.&nbsp; PLus, I always have extra aquarium nets
(large size) since I usually have at least 25 kids at once to do a stream
study.<br>
<br>
</span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Handwriting";color:green'>Carissa&nbsp;Longo<br>
</span><strong><u><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue'>Carissa51@hotmail.com</span></u></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: rroperti@zoominternet.net<br>
To: nick@henshue.org; jjose@ptd.net<br>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:03:09 -0400<br>
CC: paee@actionpa.org<br>
Subject: Re: [PAEE] D-nets vs. kick nets for 6th &amp; 7th graders<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>John
and all, I agree with Nick! I use a couple of kick nets with 6th grade level
students at Lake Arthur, Moraine State Park, and it works VERY well. I have 2
students work the net, one holding each pole. They walk out into the lake to a
point just below their boot tops (It is fall or spring and the water is cold.)
Then walk the net back toward shore. Other students meet them with containers
for the critters and plants found. It is a great project for working together. </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Yes
Nick, we did get your good ideas about night programming, and I too am a BIG
fan of the <em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Identiflyer</span></em>.
The sounds are so true and real. By the way - where is Easton High School? Keep
the good ideas coming, AND if you are into writing them down - there is always
room in the PAEE JOURNAL! Thanks, Ruth</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nick@henshue.org"
title="nick@henshue.org">Mr. Henshue</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:jjose@ptd.net" title="jjose@ptd.net">John Jose</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cc:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:paee@actionpa.org" title="paee@actionpa.org">PAEE</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Saturday, August 30,
2008 7:43 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [PAEE] D-nets
vs. kick nets for 6th &amp; 7th graders<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Kick
nets all the way, baby!!! <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>What
is better than having kids up to their knees slopping around in the water?
Waders are optional, shoes are not...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Nick
Henshue<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Environmental
Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Easton
Area High School<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>P.S.
Did you guys get my message about&nbsp;nocturnal&nbsp;programming and an audio
track?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On
Aug 28, 2008, at 10:02 PM, John Jose wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I&#8217;m
going to be doing some stream/benthic macroinvertebrate investigations with 6<sup>th</sup>
and 7<sup>th</sup> grade students and I&#8217;m trying to determine whether
D-nets or kick nets will work better. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I&#8217;d
appreciate feedback based on anyone&#8217;s experience using D-nets and/or kick
nets &#8211; including if you found one type of net worked better than the
other - to collect macroinvertebrates with 6<sup>th</sup>/7<sup>th</sup>
graders. Thanks. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>John</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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